Healing From Trauma With EMDR Therapy With Authors Michael Baldwin and Deborah Korn, PsyD

Michael Baldwin and Deborah Korn

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Every Monday on The Verywell Mind Podcast, Editor-in-Chief Amy Morin, LCSW, interviews authors, experts, entrepreneurs, athletes, musicians, and other inspirational people about the strategies that help them think, feel, and do their best in life.

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Meet Michael Baldwin and Deborah Korn, PsyD

Michael Baldwin has worked in advertising for more than 35 years. He’s also a firm believer in EMDR treatment. After seeing several different therapists and trying different types of treatment, he says EMDR saved his life.

Deborah Korn, PsyD is a psychologist, teacher, and researcher who has been on the faculty of the EMDR institute for more than 25 years. She also serves on the editorial board of the Journal of EMDR Practice and Research.

Together, they co-authored a book called "Every Memory Deserves Respect." In it, they describe Michael’s experience receiving EMDR treatment and Deborah’s expertise on why it’s such a powerful way to heal from trauma.

Why Michael and Deborah Are Mentally Strong

Michael and Deborah are passionate about sharing their knowledge with anyone who might benefit from learning more about EMDR. Michael says without EMDR, he wouldn’t be here today, and he credits EMDR treatment with helping him heal from a traumatic childhood.

In addition to treating patients with EMDR, Deborah continues to research it. She wants to continue learning more about it and how it can be used to help people heal.

What You’ll Hear on the Show

  • Why Michael says the first seven therapists he saw didn’t help him heal and the one word none of them used
  • How Michael tried to make himself feel better by achieving bigger and better things and why this strategy didn’t work
  • How traumatic memories are stored differently in the brain
  • How EMDR works
  • Why bilateral stimulation is an important part of the process
  • Why EMDR can be more effective than medication for symptoms of PTSD
  • How to know whether a past event from your life is causing problems for you now
  • How past trauma impacts your nervous system
  • The factors that determine how likely you are to develop PTSD
  • Why we often don’t recognize the link between our current symptoms and our past traumatic experiences
  • How long treatment usually takes
  • What to expect during an EMDR therapy session
  • The type of results people likely see from treatment
  • How to find an EMDR therapist

What You’ll Learn About Mental Health and Mental Strength

Sometimes people think getting through a traumatic experience relatively unscathed means they’re strong. But that idea pressures many people to pretend they’re fine even when they don’t feel fine.

You can’t control all of the factors that determine the type of effect a traumatic experience will have on your life.

Whether you endured a single traumatic event, like a car accident, or a traumatic childhood involving repeat traumas, you may develop PTSD.

Getting help to heal from trauma is a sign of strength, not weakness. And no matter how long ago a traumatic event occurred, treatment could be the key to healing your emotional wound.

Quotes From Deborah

It's about moving the past into the past so one can live more fully in the present.

"We’re coming out of this pandemic—hopefully coming out of this pandemic—and people's nervous systems are not the same as they were three years ago. Their nervous systems are much more vulnerable."

"Psychological problems are related to a failure to adequately process traumatic experiences in memories."

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By Amy Morin, LCSW
Amy Morin, LCSW, is a psychotherapist and international bestselling author. Her books, including "13 Things Mentally Strong People Don't Do," have been translated into more than 40 languages. Her TEDx talk,  "The Secret of Becoming Mentally Strong," is one of the most viewed talks of all time.