Schizophrenia Disorganized Thinking in Schizophrenia From Tangential Thought to Incoherence By Adrian Preda, MD Adrian Preda, MD LinkedIn Adrian Preda, MD, is a board-certified psychiatrist with specialties in adult and geriatric psychiatry and clinical neuropsychiatric research. Learn about our editorial process Updated on December 27, 2022 Medically reviewed Verywell Mind articles are reviewed by board-certified physicians and mental healthcare professionals. Medical Reviewers confirm the content is thorough and accurate, reflecting the latest evidence-based research. Content is reviewed before publication and upon substantial updates. Learn more. by Daniel B. Block, MD Medically reviewed by Daniel B. Block, MD LinkedIn Twitter Daniel B. Block, MD, is an award-winning, board-certified psychiatrist who operates a private practice in Pennsylvania. Learn about our Medical Review Board Print Thomas Barwick / Stone / Getty Images Table of Contents View All Table of Contents Causes Thought Content vs. Thought Process Types Diagnosis Treatment Thinking refers to our ability to make decisions, solve problems, reason, and remember. In a broader sense, thinking is the totality of experiences in one’s mind. It's fairly common for people with schizophrenia to have trouble keeping their thoughts straight and expressing what's in their minds. Disorganized thinking is one of the primary symptoms of schizophrenia. Disorganized thinking can lead to various thought process disorders that cause tangential thought, disjointed thoughts, a collapse or sudden stop in the thought process, randomly spoken words, and incoherence. Typically, we process our thoughts logically and coherently. However, for those with schizophrenia, this process is disrupted, leading to disorganized thoughts and disordered speech. Causes of Disorganized Thinking It's not clear what causes disorganized thinking (or what causes schizophrenia). It may be related to a variety of factors, like genetics and family history, environment, and past trauma. There is evidence that people with disorganized thinking have structural differences in their brains, as they show unusual activation in regions involved in: Language and speech processingAuditory perceptionSocial interactionHigher-order cognitive functions like decision-making, evaluating, brainstorming, and learning Your thoughts, emotions, sensations, memories, and fantasies are the essential building blocks of the way your brain thinks. Any disruption in your thought process, or the way these blocks are linked together, will impact other areas of your life. Positive Symptoms in Schizophrenia Thought Content vs. Thought Process It makes sense to try to understand disorganized thinking from two perspectives: thought content and thought process. While changes in someone's thought content affect what they perceive or think about, changes in thought process impact the way they form their ideas and express them. Thought Content Abnormalities Auditory hallucinations (hearing sounds not based in reality) Delusions (fixed sets of ideas that are at odds with reality) Depersonalization or derealization Grandiosity Thought Process Abnormalities Circumstantial thinking Clang associations Derailment Distractibility Tangential thinking Word salad (incoherence) Types of Disorganized Thinking Here's a more in-depth look at those thought process abnormalities. Distractibility Some people with disordered thinking experience distractibility. They may begin talking about one thing and then completely shift topics before completing their sentence. This is often due to nearby stimuli that interfere with the thought process. For example: "I moved to New York after college. What are you eating for lunch?" Circumstantial Thinking Circumstantial thinking occurs when a person talks in circles, providing excessive and unnecessary detail before getting to the point. One Classic Example Here's an example from neuroscientist and neuropsychiatrist researcher Nancy Coover Andreasen:Question: "What is your name?"Response: "Well, sometimes when people ask me, I have to think about whether or not I will answer because some people think it's an odd name even though I don’t really because my mom gave it to me and I think my dad helped but it's as good a name as any in my opinion, but yeah it's Tom." Tangential Thinking Tangential thinking occurs when someone moves from thought to thought but never seems to get to the main point. Instead, the thoughts are somewhat connected but in a superficial or tangential way. For example: "I really got mad as I was waiting in line at the grocery store. I cannot stand lines. Waiting and waiting. I waited for a long time to get my driver's license. Driving these days is just crazy." Derailment or Loose Associations In cases of severely disordered thinking, thoughts lose almost all connections with one another and become disconnected and disjointed. This illogical thinking is called derailment or "loose" associations. For example: "I really enjoyed some communities and tried it, and the next day when I’d be going out you know, um I took control like uh, I put, um, bleach on my hair in, in California. My roommate was from Chicago and she was going to the junior college. And we lived in the YMCA so she wanted to put it, um, peroxide on my hair…" Clang Associations Clanging is when the individual chooses words based on sound (rhyming or pun associations) rather than meaning. They may also use made-up words or neologisms and may speak in a flat- or unusual-sounding voice. For example: "I had a little goldfish too, like a clown. …Happy Halloween down." Clang Association in Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia Incoherence People with very severe disordered thinking may experience incoherence, where there are no discernible connections between words. This incoherence (also known as "word salad") makes it impossible to understand the individual’s thought process. For example: "They’re destroying too many cattle and oil just to make soap. If we need soap when you can jump into a pool of water, and then when you go to buy your gasoline, my folks always thought they should, get pop but the best thing to get, is motor oil, and, money..." Diagnosis The fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders includes criteria to help your doctor diagnose schizophrenia. Your doctor will look for typical symptoms of the condition, like disordered speech, delusions, hallucinations, disorganized or catatonic behavior, and reduced emotional expression. They may also look for disorganized thinking by examining how you communicate and direct your attention. Your doctor will also need to rule out other conditions that can affect thought processes, like: Autism Bipolar disorder Mania Major depressive disorder Treatment for Disorganized Thinking Treatment for thought process abnormalities in schizophrenia often includes medication, psychotherapy, life skills training, and family support. Medication The right medication can help to reduce disordered thinking and improve functioning. This may include antidepressants, mood stabilizers, or anti-anxiety medication alongside antipsychotics for long term management of the symptoms of schizophrenia. Psychotherapy Talk therapy, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), can help you better identify thought process abnormalities and find ways to cope with unusual or dysfunctional ways of thinking. Social Skills Training An inability to clearly communicate your thoughts and feelings can take a toll on your family, social life, and work relationships. Social skills training can help you improve communication with others to better navigate these relationships. Family Support Family members are often crucial providers of care for someone with schizophrenia. Family therapy may help ensure that you and your loved ones understand your condition and feel supported. Recap Treatment for thought process problems depends on the root cause. In many cases, medication, psychotherapy, skill training, and family support are part of a treatment plan. The Best Online Therapy Programs We've tried, tested and written unbiased reviews of the best online therapy programs including Talkspace, Betterhelp, and Regain. A Word From Verywell Disorganized thinking can be difficult to deal with, but with the help of your doctor and the support of those close to you, you can make great strides and cope. 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